{"id":21003,"date":"2025-02-09T10:41:37","date_gmt":"2025-02-09T09:41:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/?p=21003"},"modified":"2025-02-09T10:41:47","modified_gmt":"2025-02-09T09:41:47","slug":"slovensku-skodil-kde-mohl-pod-tatrami-vznika-drsna-kniha-o-havlovi-u-nas-mate-ochutnavku","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/?p=21003","title":{"rendered":"\u201eSlovensku \u0161kodil, kde mohl\u201c. Pod Tatrami vznik\u00e1 drsn\u00e1 kniha o Havlovi, u n\u00e1s m\u00e1te ochutn\u00e1vku"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>08.02.2025 18:48 | Kauza<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201eSlov\u00e1ky m\u011bl za \u201apot\u00ed\u017eisty\u2018, kte\u0159\u00ed ho otravovali jako n\u011bjak\u00e1 vzd\u00e1len\u00e1 \u010d\u00e1st republiky, kde chce vl\u00e1dnout jako monarcha, a kde produkuj\u00ed \u201aty ba\u010dovsk\u00e9 v\u00fdrobky\u2018. Koneckonc\u016f, dok\u00e1zal to i ve\u0159ejn\u00fdmi vystoupen\u00edmi, na nich\u017e Slovensku \u0161kodil, kde mohl\u2026,\u201c napsal slovensk\u00fd spisovatel Gust\u00e1v Mur\u00edn v knize \u201eDemol\u00e1CIA na\u0161ej demokracie \u2013 od Havla k \u0160ime\u010dkovi\u201c o prvn\u00edm \u010desk\u00e9m prezidentovi V\u00e1clavu Havlovi. Nyn\u00ed sepisuje knihu \u201eHavel \u2013 \u017eivot ve l\u017ei\u201c a my jsme z\u00edskali n\u011bkter\u00e9 uk\u00e1zky z rukopisu.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cms.parlamentnilisty.cz\/image.ashx?w=632&amp;h=307&amp;f=_MG_2200_638120028234951415.JPG&amp;id=177463\" alt=\"\u201eSlovensku \u0161kodil, kde mohl\u201c. Pod Tatrami vznik\u00e1 drsn\u00e1 kniha o Havlovi, u n\u00e1s m\u00e1te ochutn\u00e1vku \"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><small>Foto:&nbsp;<strong>Jan Rychetsk\u00fd<\/strong><br>Popisek:&nbsp;<strong>Busta V\u00e1clava Havla jako lampa<\/strong><\/small><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201ePodle sv\u011bdk\u016f m\u011bl Havel ke Slovensku p\u0159ez\u00edrav\u00fd vztah. Podle p\u0159ekladatele (profesor p\u016fsob\u00edc\u00ed jako samostatn\u00fd v\u011bdeck\u00fd pracovn\u00edk na Slovensk\u00e9 akademii v\u011bd. pozn. red.) Ladislava Franeka: \u201aHavel byl mlad\u00fd \u201ahejsek\u2018, kter\u00fd se o Slov\u00e1c\u00edch vyjad\u0159oval p\u0159ed cizinci pohrdav\u011b.\u2018 Slov\u00e1ky m\u011bl za \u201apot\u00ed\u017eisty\u2018, kte\u0159\u00ed ho otravovali, jako n\u011bjak\u00e1 vzd\u00e1len\u00e1 \u010d\u00e1st republiky, kde chce vl\u00e1dnout jako monarcha a kde produkuj\u00ed \u201aty ba\u010dovsk\u00e9 v\u00fdrobky\u2018. Koneckonc\u016f, dok\u00e1zal to i ve\u0159ejn\u00fdmi vystoupen\u00edmi, na nich\u017e Slovensku \u0161kodil, kde mohl\u2026,\u201c napsal slovensk\u00fd spisovatel Gust\u00e1v Mur\u00edn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vyb\u00edr\u00e1me z knihy \u201eDemol\u00e1CIA na\u0161ej demokracie \u2013 od Havla k \u0160ime\u010dkovi\u201c \u010di pracovn\u00edch verz\u00ed kapitol jeho p\u0159ipravovan\u00e9 knihy \u201eHavel \u2013 \u017eivot v klamstve\u201c. Je to ale hodn\u011b v\u00fdbu\u0161n\u00e9 \u010dten\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Havel a Slovensko<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Parlamentn\u00edListy.cz se k rozpracovan\u00fdm kapitol\u00e1m dostaly p\u0159es \u010desk\u00e9 intelektu\u00e1ly, s nimi\u017e Mur\u00edn n\u011bkter\u00e9 odstavce konzultuje. S\u00e1m n\u00e1m povolil jejich publikaci, kdy\u017e e-mailem napsal: \u201eBez probl\u00e9m\u016f. Z\u00e1klad u\u017e vy\u0161el v knize \u201aDemol\u00e1CIA na\u0161ej demokracie \u2013 od Havla k \u0160ime\u010dkovi\u2018.\u201c Ze zm\u00edn\u011bn\u00e9 knihy zaslal \u010d\u00e1st, kde se p\u00ed\u0161e o vztahu Havla ke Slovensku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cms.parlamentnilisty.cz\/image.ashx?id=193801&amp;f=DEMOLACIA-obalka-predna_638742584056048542.jpg&amp;w=632&amp;h=307\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Havel podle Mur\u00edna vy\u0161el s koncepc\u00ed, \u017ee je Slovensko t\u0159eba rozd\u011blit na dva krajinn\u00e9 celky a zd\u016fvod\u0148oval to t\u00edm, \u017ee v\u00fdchodn\u00ed Slov\u00e1ci jsou jin\u00ed, ne\u017e ti na z\u00e1pad\u011b. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b stejn\u011b logick\u00e9 rozd\u011blen\u00ed \u010cech a Moravy zu\u0159iv\u011b odm\u00edtal! \u201eHavel v rozporu se zvyklostmi nepodnikl prvn\u00ed cestu jako prezident na Slovensko, ale do N\u011bmecka. Tam se jel omlouvat vys\u00eddlen\u00fdm N\u011bmc\u016fm, kte\u0159\u00ed p\u0159ed druhou sv\u011btovou v\u00e1lkou, nad\u0161en\u00ed Hitlerov\u00fdm \u0161tvan\u00edm, tou\u017eili j\u00edt \u201azp\u011bt do \u0158\u00ed\u0161e\u2018, ale i s po\u0159\u00e1dn\u00fdm kusem tehdej\u0161\u00edho \u010ceskoslovenska,\u201c vzpom\u00edn\u00e1 tak\u00e9 Mur\u00edn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cms.parlamentnilisty.cz\/image.ashx?id=11797&amp;f=gustav-murin2-635045879837074113.jpg&amp;w=632&amp;h=307\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Havel pr\u00fd jel v roce 1991 c\u00edlen\u011b na demonstraci nacionalist\u016f a p\u0159\u00edvr\u017eenc\u016f klerofa\u0161istick\u00e9 minulosti Slovenska do Bratislavy, aby sv\u011btu uk\u00e1zal sp\u00ed\u0161e tu hor\u0161\u00ed tv\u00e1\u0159 zem\u011b pod Tatrami. \u201eKdy\u017e naopak sloven\u0161t\u00ed demokrat\u00e9 svolali svou demonstraci p\u0159i p\u0159\u00edle\u017eitosti 73. v\u00fdro\u010d\u00ed vzniku \u010ceskoslovenska na podporu spole\u010dn\u00e9ho st\u00e1tu, tak p\u0159i\u0161el na pln\u00e9 n\u00e1m\u011bst\u00ed SNP op\u011bt se spont\u00e1nn\u011b bl\u00e1zniv\u00fdm n\u00e1padem, aby za tuto my\u0161lenku v\u0161ichni dr\u017eeli minutu ticha. To mohl vymyslet jen politick\u00fd idiot. V\u017edy\u0165 minuta ticha se dr\u017e\u00ed za mrtv\u00e9,\u201c p\u00ed\u0161e se d\u00e1l s t\u00edm, \u017ee na Slovensku se likvidoval zbrojn\u00ed pr\u016fmysl, kde\u017eto Zbrojovka Brno \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1 omezen\u00ed nepoc\u00edtila.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Uk\u00e1zky z knihy o Havlovi<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Gust\u00e1v Mur\u00edn se narodil roku 1959 v Bratislav\u011b, kde \u017eije dodnes. Na P\u0159\u00edrodov\u011bdeck\u00e9 fakult\u011b Univerzity Komensk\u00e9ho v Bratislav\u011b v roce 1984 z\u00edskal titul doktora p\u0159\u00edrodn\u00edch v\u011bd a posl\u00e9ze v roce 1991 se stal i kandid\u00e1tem v\u011bd. Publikovat za\u010dal v osmdes\u00e1t\u00fdch letech dvac\u00e1t\u00e9ho stolet\u00ed. Ve sv\u00e9m vlastn\u00edm \u017eivotopise zmi\u0148uje, \u017ee m\u00e1 za sebou publikaci dvaasedmdes\u00e1ti kni\u017en\u00edch titul\u016f. \u0160est let p\u016fsobil jako p\u0159edseda slovensk\u00e9 pobo\u010dky organizace P.E.N. Jak s\u00e1m napsal, t\u00e9ma jeho nejnov\u011bj\u0161\u00ed knihy Havel \u2013 \u017eivot ve l\u017ei je v \u010cesku je\u0161t\u011b st\u00e1le velice v\u00fdbu\u0161n\u00e9 a nejsp\u00ed\u0161 bude t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9 naj\u00edt u n\u00e1s nakladatele. Materi\u00e1ly k n\u00ed v\u0161ak sb\u00edral dvacet let.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cms.parlamentnilisty.cz\/image.ashx?id=183545&amp;f=14_638316867320976864.JPG&amp;w=632&amp;h=307\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>V p\u0159ipravovan\u00e9 knize, jej\u00ed\u017e uk\u00e1zky se n\u00e1m dostaly do rukou, porovn\u00e1v\u00e1 Mur\u00edn Havlovy ideje s jeho \u017eivotem. Podobn\u011b jako to t\u0159eba britsk\u00fd historik Paul Johnson ud\u011blal s Marxem, Tolst\u00fdm, Hemingwayem, Brechtem, Sartrem, Chomsk\u00fdm a dal\u0161\u00edmi v knize Intelektu\u00e1lov\u00e9. Stvo\u0159en\u00ed v\u016fdce Sametov\u00e9 revoluce je podle spisovatele u\u010debnicov\u00fdm p\u0159\u00edkladem manipulace ve\u0159ejn\u00e9ho m\u00edn\u011bn\u00ed vytvo\u0159en\u00edm pozitivn\u00edho obrazu vybran\u00e9ho objektu. Z typick\u00e9ho v\u00fdkv\u011btu zlat\u00e9 ml\u00e1de\u017ee se stal Havel figurkou vysok\u00e9 mezin\u00e1rodn\u00ed politick\u00e9 hry. Nejstru\u010dn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed charakteristikou, podle n\u011bkter\u00fdch \u201enejv\u011bt\u0161\u00edho z \u010cech\u016f\u201c, kterou napsal Mur\u00edn hned v \u00favodu, je, \u017ee byl Havel politick\u00fd \u0160vejk.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ostatn\u011b Mur\u00edn se s Havlem setkal, jak p\u00ed\u0161e, u\u017e p\u0159ed revoluc\u00ed. V roce 1988 byl na v\u011bdeck\u00e9 st\u00e1\u017ei v Praze, m\u011bl narozeniny a v Klubu \u017eelezni\u010d\u00e1\u0159\u016f v uli\u010dce u N\u00e1b\u0159e\u017e\u00ed Bed\u0159icha Engelse, dne\u0161n\u00edho Ra\u0161\u00ednova n\u00e1b\u0159e\u017e\u00ed, se odehr\u00e1la premi\u00e9ra hry P\u0159emysla Ruta \u201e\u017d\u00e1dn\u00e1 trag\u00e9die\u201c. P\u0159i p\u0159edstaven\u00ed to pr\u00fd mezi obecenstvem jisk\u0159ilo a zaregistroval tam i V\u00e1clava Havla a jeho \u017eenu Olgu. V pr\u00e1zdn\u00e9m baru klubu se s nimi po p\u0159edstaven\u00ed potkal a p\u0159ipili si. Pot\u00e9, co ode\u0161li, se bar zaplnil divadeln\u00edky a jejich pozvan\u00fdmi hosty.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cms.parlamentnilisty.cz\/image.ashx?id=146873&amp;f=IMG_1322_637123013674980842.jpg&amp;w=632&amp;h=307\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>V jedn\u00e9 uk\u00e1zce p\u00ed\u0161e Gust\u00e1v Mur\u00edn o Halvov\u00fdch z\u00e1vislostech. Kou\u0159en\u00ed, alkoholu a \u017een\u00e1ch. \u201eHavel by t\u011b\u017ek\u00fd alkoholik. Dnes by ho bulv\u00e1r rozebral na \u0161roubky a jeho alkoholick\u00e9 excesy by ho jako politika odrovnaly. Jen\u017ee byly \u010dasy, kdy si na n\u011bj netroufl ani bulv\u00e1r. Zato sv\u011bdk\u016f se na\u0161lo dost,\u201c popisuje. Ohledn\u011b \u017een m\u00edn\u00ed: \u201eHavel navrhl Vod\u0148ansk\u00e9, \u017ee se jej\u00edm p\u0159\u00edtelem m\u00e1 st\u00e1t m\u00edsto n\u011bj Tom\u00e1\u0161 Hal\u00edk. Vod\u0148ansk\u00e1 si do den\u00edku poznamenala: \u201aTrochu p\u0159ehl\u00e9dl, \u017ee je kn\u011bz a mo\u017en\u00e1 dr\u017e\u00ed i celib\u00e1t.\u2018 A pak se na sc\u00e9n\u011b objevuje Ve\u0161krnov\u00e1 a p\u0159eb\u00edr\u00e1 ot\u011b\u017ee.\u201c D\u00e1le pak p\u00ed\u0161e o Sametov\u00e9 revoluci jako o \u201elehk\u00e9 a rychl\u00e9 revoluci\u201c \u010di amnestii&nbsp;\u00e0 la \u201esvoboda pro budouc\u00ed vrahy\u201c. V dal\u0161\u00ed ochutn\u00e1vce se zab\u00fdv\u00e1 jeho vztahem k sudetsk\u00fdm N\u011bmc\u016fm, zamet\u00e1n\u00edm cesti\u010dky ciz\u00edmu kapit\u00e1lu, Havlov\u00fdm osobn\u00edm majetkem a t\u0159eba i styky s miliard\u00e1\u0159em Zde\u0148kem Bakalou. V jej\u00edm z\u00e1v\u011bru zazn\u00ed: \u201eA koneckonc\u016f, pen\u00edze m\u011bl V\u00e1clav Havel opravdu r\u00e1d&#8230;\u201c<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>08.02.2025 18:48 | Kauza \u201eSlov\u00e1ky m\u011bl za \u201apot\u00ed\u017eisty\u2018, kte\u0159\u00ed ho otravovali jako n\u011bjak\u00e1 vzd\u00e1len\u00e1 \u010d\u00e1st republiky, kde chce vl\u00e1dnout jako monarcha, a kde produkuj\u00ed \u201aty ba\u010dovsk\u00e9 v\u00fdrobky\u2018. Koneckonc\u016f, dok\u00e1zal to i ve\u0159ejn\u00fdmi vystoupen\u00edmi, na nich\u017e Slovensku \u0161kodil, kde mohl\u2026,\u201c napsal slovensk\u00fd spisovatel Gust\u00e1v Mur\u00edn v knize \u201eDemol\u00e1CIA na\u0161ej demokracie \u2013 od Havla k \u0160ime\u010dkovi\u201c o &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/?p=21003\" class=\"more-link\">Pokra\u010dov\u00e1n\u00ed textu <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">\u201eSlovensku \u0161kodil, kde mohl\u201c. Pod Tatrami vznik\u00e1 drsn\u00e1 kniha o Havlovi, u n\u00e1s m\u00e1te ochutn\u00e1vku<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-21003","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-pc"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21003","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=21003"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21003\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":21004,"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21003\/revisions\/21004"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=21003"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=21003"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=21003"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}