{"id":22294,"date":"2025-12-11T19:33:56","date_gmt":"2025-12-11T18:33:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/?p=22294"},"modified":"2025-12-11T19:34:08","modified_gmt":"2025-12-11T18:34:08","slug":"pametnik-solta-spravne-demokraticti-disidenti-maji-sve-vyhody-sudetaci-do-terezina-ps-toto-stoji-za-precteni-jak-to-bylo-17-11-1989","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/?p=22294","title":{"rendered":"Pam\u011btn\u00edk \u0160olta: \u201eSpr\u00e1vn\u011b demokrati\u010dt\u00ed\u201c disidenti maj\u00ed sv\u00e9 v\u00fdhody. Sude\u0165\u00e1ci do Terez\u00edna PS: toto stoj\u00ed za p\u0159e\u010dten\u00ed, jak to bylo 17.11.1989!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>11.12.2025 4:44 | Rozhovor<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201e\u010ce\u0161t\u00ed prezidenti sice v\u00fdhrady m\u011bli, zkou\u0161eli diskutovat, ale pak ustoupili. Av\u0161ak Pavel c\u00edtil obrovskou podporu z Bruselu a ustupovat se mu moc necht\u011blo,\u201c \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 v rozs\u00e1hl\u00e9m rozhovoru pro Parlamentn\u00edListy.cz n\u011bkdej\u0161\u00ed disident, ekonom a vysoko\u0161kolsk\u00fd pedagog Jan \u0160olta. Hovo\u0159ili jsme i o Nadaci \u017delezn\u00e1 opona, Milionu chvilek pro demokracii \u010di oslav\u00e1ch 17. listopadu 1989.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cms.parlamentnilisty.cz\/image.ashx?w=632&amp;h=307&amp;f=IMG_4433_636803418850401867.jpg&amp;id=138271\" alt=\"Pam\u011btn\u00edk \u0160olta: \u201eSpr\u00e1vn\u011b demokrati\u010dt\u00ed\u201c disidenti maj\u00ed sv\u00e9 v\u00fdhody. Sude\u0165\u00e1ci do Terez\u00edna \"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><small>Foto:&nbsp;<strong>Hans \u0160tembera<\/strong><br>Popisek:&nbsp;<strong>Debata o roce 1968 ve Slovensk\u00e9m dom\u011b<\/strong><\/small><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>P\u0159esto\u017ee prezident Petr Pavel u\u017e jmenoval Andreje Babi\u0161e premi\u00e9rem, pro\u010d d\u011blal ohledn\u011b nov\u00e9 vl\u00e1dy takov\u00e9 pr\u016ftahy?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jednalo se o situaci, kter\u00e1 vybo\u010duje z hranic demokracie, pokud jedin\u00e1 osoba m\u016f\u017ee ma\u0159it rozhodnut\u00ed v\u011bt\u0161iny n\u00e1roda, u\u010din\u011bn\u00e9 ve svobodn\u00fdch volb\u00e1ch. To je nep\u0159ijateln\u00e9 a souhlas\u00edm s b\u00fdval\u00fdm prezidentem Milo\u0161em Zemanem, \u017ee to bylo faktick\u00e9 ma\u0159en\u00ed voleb. Z\u00e1m\u011brn\u00e9 bojkotov\u00e1n\u00ed \u010di zneuzn\u00e1n\u00ed jejich v\u00fdsledku se d\u011blo asi mimo r\u00e1mec a zvyklosti \u00fastavy. Av\u0161ak ve skute\u010dnosti mohl takto postupovat cel\u00e9 \u010dty\u0159i roky. Prezident to m\u016f\u017ee opravdu d\u011blat cel\u00e9 volebn\u00ed obdob\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Bu\u010fme spravedliv\u00ed. Ur\u010dit\u00e9 v\u00fdhrady ke slo\u017een\u00ed vl\u00e1dy m\u011bli v\u0161ichni \u010de\u0161t\u00ed prezidenti V\u00e1clavem Klausem po\u010d\u00ednaje\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>V\u00e1clav Klaus \u0159\u00edkal p\u0159ed volbami, \u017ee tyto probl\u00e9my nenastanou, v\u011b\u0159il tomu. Andrej Babi\u0161 to ch\u00e1pal obdobn\u011b. Zeman m\u011bl obavy ji\u017e v l\u00e9t\u011b, ob\u00e1val se, \u017ee i kdy\u017e dopadnou volby p\u0159\u00edzniv\u011b pro zm\u011bnu vl\u00e1dy, n\u011bco podobn\u00e9ho m\u016f\u017ee nastat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cms.parlamentnilisty.cz\/image.ashx?id=198903&amp;f=dsc06945-20251209-095546_639008684760344755.jpg&amp;w=632&amp;h=307\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u010ce\u0161t\u00ed prezidenti sice v\u00fdhrady m\u011bli, zkou\u0161eli diskutovat, ale pak ustoupili. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b Pavel c\u00edtil obrovskou podporu z Bruselu a ustupovat se mu necht\u011blo. Podle m\u011b tam pot\u0159ebovali, aby na zased\u00e1n\u00ed Evropsk\u00e9 rady p\u0159ed V\u00e1noci jel sou\u010dasn\u00fd premi\u00e9r v demisi a ne u\u017e nov\u00fd, kter\u00fd by nemusel odhlasovat v\u0161e, co tam cht\u011bj\u00ed prosadit. M\u011bli strach, \u017ee by se Babi\u0161 mohl p\u0159idat k Robertu Ficovi a Viktoru Orb\u00e1novi. To jim asi nevy\u0161lo. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b Babi\u0161 se mo\u017en\u00e1 ani p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 nesna\u017eil tam jet, proto\u017ee tam bude vystaven obrovsk\u00e9mu tlaku a nejsp\u00ed\u0161 donucen za \u010cesko p\u0159ijmout rozhodnut\u00ed, kter\u00e1 n\u00e1s op\u011bt zadlu\u017e\u00ed o dal\u0161\u00ed miliardy korun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chod\u00edm na zased\u00e1n\u00ed Evropsk\u00e9ho v\u00fdboru Sen\u00e1tu a \u010dasto s \u00fa\u017easem pozoruji, s jak\u00fdm nez\u00e1jmem a rychlost\u00ed se tu \u0159e\u0161\u00ed nap\u0159\u00edklad probl\u00e9my p\u0159enosu evropsk\u00e9 legislativy do na\u0161eho pr\u00e1vn\u00edho syst\u00e9mu. Malou pozornost v\u011bnuj\u00ed ochran\u011b \u010desk\u00fdch z\u00e1jm\u016f, dostate\u010dn\u011b nereflektuj\u00ed skute\u010dn\u00e9 dopady a mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u00e9 n\u00e1klady realizace evropsk\u00fdch pokyn\u016f. Opravdu pot\u0159ebujeme tak n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e1 \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed navrhovan\u00e1 Bruselem, budeme na n\u011b m\u00edt? Z\u0159ejm\u011b nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00ed je b\u00fdt s Evropskou komis\u00ed v\u017edy v souladu. P\u0159em\u00fd\u0161l\u00ed se tak: \u201eA\u0165 u\u017e to m\u00e1me rychle za sebou a hotov\u00e9.\u201c<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Pro\u010d je \u010desk\u00e1 spole\u010dnost v\u011bt\u0161inov\u011b, co se t\u00fd\u010de Evropsk\u00e9 unie, takto nev\u0161\u00edmav\u00e1?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Osobn\u011b jsem pro Evropsk\u00e9 hnut\u00ed psal zpr\u00e1vy o n\u00e1lad\u00e1ch v \u010cesku. Kritick\u00e9 n\u00e1zory diskutuj\u00edc\u00edch, t\u0159eba co nam\u00edtaj\u00ed studenti a pracuj\u00edc\u00ed na Ostravsku \u010di Chebsku. \u010casto se jednalo o negativn\u00ed zpr\u00e1vy, ale nebyly br\u00e1ny v \u00favahu. V Bruselu prost\u011b p\u0159ipou\u0161t\u011bj\u00ed jen souhlasn\u00fd potlesk, kritick\u00e9 n\u00e1zory p\u0159ehl\u00ed\u017eej\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cms.parlamentnilisty.cz\/image.ashx?id=141858&amp;f=IMG_9789_636939589955054029.jpg&amp;w=632&amp;h=307\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>V \u010desk\u00e9m Parlamentu se v\u016fbec m\u00e1lokdy rozporuj\u00ed bruselsk\u00e9 sm\u011brnice. Jak\u00fd budou pro n\u00e1s m\u00edt efekt? Je to v\u00fdhodn\u00e9? Nikdo to ne\u0159e\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Kdy\u017e jsem p\u0159ed volbami do \u010desk\u00e9ho Sen\u00e1tu polo\u017eil ot\u00e1zku, jestli by se m\u011bl Evropsk\u00fd parlament roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159it o druhou komoru, tedy eurosen\u00e1t, kdy\u017e je to v mnoha n\u00e1rodn\u00edch parlamentech tolik vz\u00fdvan\u00e1 \u201ez\u00e1ruka demokracie\u201c, nikdo z kandid\u00e1t\u016f TOP 09 nebyl schopen validn\u00ed odpov\u011bdi. Podle m\u011b by to i v ostatn\u00edch stran\u00e1ch dopadlo podobn\u011b\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No ano. Nikdo o tom nep\u0159em\u00fd\u0161l\u00ed. Osobn\u011b jsem dlouho fandil b\u00e1jn\u00e9 integraci cel\u00e9 Evropy. Snili jsme o n\u00ed nap\u0159\u00edklad s profesorem Ji\u0159\u00edm H\u00e1jkem ve Sdru\u017een\u00ed evropsk\u00e9ho domu je\u0161t\u011b p\u0159ed p\u0159evratem. Av\u0161ak \u010d\u00edm v\u00edc ji dnes studuji, t\u00edm jsem skepti\u010dt\u011bj\u0161\u00ed. Dominantn\u00ed velmoci nemaj\u00ed p\u0159\u00edli\u0161n\u00fd z\u00e1jem o rovnopr\u00e1vn\u00e9 postaven\u00ed men\u0161\u00edch zem\u00ed, o jejich kritick\u00e9 v\u00fdhrady k fakticky se zhor\u0161uj\u00edc\u00edm podm\u00ednk\u00e1m, k nar\u016fstaj\u00edc\u00edm rozd\u00edl\u016fm. Sleduj\u00ed vlastn\u00ed prosp\u011bch, a proto cht\u011bj\u00ed nap\u0159\u00edklad zru\u0161it pr\u00e1vo veta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Po\u0159\u00e1d\u00e1te ve\u0159ejn\u00e9 debaty Nadace \u017delezn\u00e1 opona, kter\u00e9 jsou v\u011bt\u0161inou velmi kritick\u00e9. Nepokra\u010duje tak vlastn\u011b disent?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Konaj\u00ed se v podzem\u00ed, ve sklep\u011b, v p\u0159\u00edjemn\u00e9m prost\u0159ed\u00ed pohostinn\u00e9ho Slovensk\u00e9ho domu. Nikdo n\u00e1s nefinancuje, ne\u0159\u00edd\u00ed, nikomu neslou\u017e\u00edme. Pokud st\u00e1le plat\u00ed, \u017ee podstatou demokracie je svobodn\u00e1 diskuse bez p\u0159edsudk\u016f a \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fdch omezen\u00ed na z\u00e1klad\u011b plurality n\u00e1zor\u016f, potom budeme s ka\u017ed\u00fdm re\u017eimem v souladu. Pokud v\u0161ak bude vl\u00e1da \u010di EU prosazovat cenzuru, budeme velmi kriti\u010dt\u00ed. Bez obav a postrann\u00edch \u00famysl\u016f zveme politiky \u010di zaj\u00edmav\u00e9 ve\u0159ejn\u00e9 osoby. Zleva i zprava.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Na na\u0161ich akc\u00edch, kter\u00e9 po\u0159\u00e1d\u00e1me p\u0159es t\u0159icet let, u\u017e vystoupili mimo jin\u00e9 t\u0159eba Mirek Topol\u00e1nek, Vladim\u00edr \u0160pidla, Ivan Barto\u0161, J\u00e1n \u010carnogursk\u00fd, oba b\u00fdval\u00ed prezidenti, v\u0161ichni \u010de\u0161t\u00ed eurokomisa\u0159i. Chceme pozvat i gener\u00e1la Michala Koudelku. Ostatn\u011b jsem za\u010d\u00ednal ve spolupr\u00e1ci s Danielem Kroupou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cms.parlamentnilisty.cz\/image.ashx?id=145265&amp;f=IMG_5877_637070015071215966.jpg&amp;w=632&amp;h=307\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Nikdy jsme se \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fdm sm\u011brem nevyhranili. Diskutovat m\u016f\u017ee ka\u017ed\u00fd. Setk\u00e1 se v\u0161ak \u010dasto s dost v\u0161ete\u010dn\u00fdmi a tvrd\u00fdmi dotazy. Lid\u00e9 se u n\u00e1s neboj\u00ed. Poklidn\u011b v\u0161e fungovalo do chv\u00edle, ne\u017e jsem za\u010dal b\u00fdt d\u00e1v\u00e1n do spojitosti s Milo\u0161em Zemanem, m\u00fdm spolu\u017e\u00e1kem a kamar\u00e1dem. Od t\u00e9 doby se na n\u00e1s spousta lid\u00ed za\u010dala d\u00edvat skrz prsty. Ned\u00e1vno jsem za\u017eil \u00fasm\u011bvnou zku\u0161enost s Petrem Pithartem. Po\u017eadoval za sv\u00e9 vystoupen\u00ed zaplatit. Jen\u017ee my vstupn\u00e9 nevyb\u00edr\u00e1me ani n\u00e1s sponzo\u0159i nedotuj\u00ed, tak\u017ee na placen\u00ed \u0159e\u010dn\u00edk\u016fm nem\u00e1me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>P\u0159itom na shrom\u00e1\u017ed\u011bn\u00ed Milionu chvilek pro demokracii v r\u00e1mci leto\u0161n\u00edch oslav 17. listopadu Pithart vystoupil\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jsou jasnou sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed Fialova vl\u00e1dn\u00edho bloku. Asi tak\u00e9 maj\u00ed v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed kasu ne\u017e my, kdy\u017e jsou schopni zaplatit pron\u00e1jmy, \u010detn\u00e9 po\u0159adatele, ozvu\u010den\u00ed a reproduk\u010dn\u00ed techniku pro tis\u00edce lid\u00ed, postavit p\u00f3dium, a tak d\u00e1le. My se s nimi nem\u016f\u017eeme finan\u010dn\u011b rovnat. Nejsme tak bohat\u00ed. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b jsem nikdy nesly\u0161el, \u017ee by ve sv\u00fdch vystoupen\u00edch dali slovo t\u00e9\u017e opozici, n\u011bjak\u00e9mu konkuren\u010dn\u00edmu n\u00e1zoru. Propaguj\u00ed v\u00fdhradn\u011b jedin\u00fd n\u00e1zorov\u00fd sm\u011br a t\u0159eba \u010cesk\u00e1 televize jim d\u011bl\u00e1 doslova hl\u00e1snou troubu a zdarma \u201ebarnumskou reklamu\u201c.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>P\u0159ed t\u00fddnem jste m\u011bli debatu o Edvardu Bene\u0161ovi, jen\u017e byl p\u0159ed devades\u00e1ti lety zvolen do funkce prezidenta \u010ceskoslovensk\u00e9 republiky. Co to?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ano a pozvali jsme krom\u011b Ji\u0159\u00edho Weigla a profesor\u016f Petra Drul\u00e1ka a Ivo Budila t\u00e9\u017e docenta Pitharta a novin\u00e1\u0159e Jana Urbana, kte\u0159\u00ed se v\u0161ak omluvili. Bene\u0161 pob\u00fdval ve funkci v nejslo\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00edch a nejtragi\u010dt\u011bj\u0161\u00edch \u010dasech na\u0161\u00ed st\u00e1tnosti. Pro mnoh\u00e9 se stal c\u00edlem nechutn\u00e9 dehonestace, pro jin\u00e9 zaslou\u017een\u00e9ho obdivu. M\u011bl v\u0161ak nap\u0159\u00edklad v roce 1943, kdy\u017e se schylovalo k podpisu \u010deskoslovensko-sov\u011btsk\u00e9 spojeneck\u00e9 smlouvy, \u0161anci postupovat jinak, nab\u00edzela se snad v\u00fdhodn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed a jin\u00e1 re\u00e1ln\u00e1 alternativa?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cms.parlamentnilisty.cz\/image.ashx?id=196379&amp;f=Darney-a_638865989328666872.jpg&amp;w=632&amp;h=307\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Nesm\u00edme p\u0159itom zapomenout, \u017ee tehdy jedin\u00fdm, kdo byl ochoten uznat obnovu \u010ceskoslovenska v p\u0159edmnichovsk\u00fdch hranic\u00edch, byl Sov\u011btsk\u00fd svaz. Brit\u00e1nie striktn\u011b odm\u00edtala uzav\u00edrat dohody p\u0159ed koncem v\u00e1lky. Amerika je daleko a nav\u00edc ji st\u0159edn\u00ed Evropa nezaj\u00edmala. Oba spojenci p\u0159edpokl\u00e1dali, \u017ee pov\u00e1le\u010dn\u00e1 nadvl\u00e1da SSSR ve v\u00fdchodn\u00ed Evrop\u011b bude nevyhnuteln\u00e1, a proto doporu\u010dovali budouc\u00edm \u201eporoben\u00fdm zem\u00edm\u201c, aby podle \u010deskoslovensk\u00e9ho modelu respektovaly z\u00e1jmy Moskvy hlavn\u011b v ot\u00e1zk\u00e1ch zahrani\u010dn\u00ed a bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed politiky. A vyhnuly se tak jejich bezprost\u0159edn\u00edmu pohlcen\u00ed Sov\u011btsk\u00fdm svazem, jak se to ud\u00e1lo v Pobalt\u00ed. Spr\u00e1va vnit\u0159n\u00edch dom\u00e1c\u00edch z\u00e1le\u017eitost\u00ed pak mohla z\u016fstat v jejich rukou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ameri\u010dt\u00ed poradci jim v\u00fdslovn\u011b radili, aby postupovaly podle vzoru Edvarda Bene\u0161e a tak\u00e9 nav\u00e1zaly p\u0159\u00edzniv\u00e9 vztahy se SSSR, nebo\u0165 \u201edoba mal\u00fdch n\u00e1rod\u016f skon\u010dila, ve sf\u00e9\u0159e sov\u011btsk\u00e9ho vlivu budou m\u00edt lep\u0161\u00ed \u017eivot\u201c, respektive \u201ebalk\u00e1nsk\u00fdm Slovan\u016fm bude l\u00e9pe ve st\u00ednu Moskvy ne\u017e jako nez\u00e1visl\u00fdm mali\u010dk\u00fdm n\u00e1rod\u016fm\u201c.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kdo si dnes trouf\u00e1 seri\u00f3zn\u011b vy\u010d\u00edtat Bene\u0161ovi, \u017ee zachr\u00e1nil republiku a definitivn\u011b vy\u0159e\u0161il takzvan\u00fd probl\u00e9m sudetsk\u00fdch N\u011bmc\u016f, tak moc nezn\u00e1 historii. Kdo koncem roku 1945 prosadil sou\u010dasn\u00fd odchod americk\u00e9 a Rud\u00e9 arm\u00e1dy z na\u0161eho \u00fazem\u00ed, na \u010das zabr\u00e1nil na\u0161\u00ed okam\u017eit\u00e9 sov\u011btizaci, kter\u00e1 hned po skon\u010den\u00ed v\u00e1lky postihla v\u0161echny ostatn\u00ed v\u00fdchodoevropsk\u00e9 st\u00e1ty, a fakticky tak o t\u0159i roky prodlou\u017eil trv\u00e1n\u00ed takzvan\u00e9 limitovan\u00e9 demokracie u n\u00e1s?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Co si v tomto kontextu mysl\u00edte o tom, \u017ee sjezd Sudeton\u011bmeck\u00e9ho landsman\u0161aftu bude poprv\u00e9 na \u010desk\u00e9 p\u016fd\u011b, tedy v Brn\u011b?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Po druh\u00e9 sv\u011btov\u00e9 v\u00e1lce bylo v Evrop\u011b na z\u00e1klad\u011b rozhodnut\u00ed v\u00edt\u011bzn\u00fdch velmoc\u00ed odsunuto p\u0159es dvan\u00e1ct milion\u016f N\u011bmc\u016f, ale pouze v \u010cech\u00e1ch je problematika toho odsunu neust\u00e1le a z\u00e1m\u011brn\u011b o\u017eivov\u00e1na. Z hlediska N\u011bmc\u016f byl odsun nesporn\u011b bolestn\u00fd. Neodpov\u00edd\u00e1 dne\u0161n\u00edm m\u011b\u0159\u00edtk\u016fm a krit\u00e9ri\u00edm lidsk\u00fdch pr\u00e1v. Byl v\u0161ak realizov\u00e1n v dobov\u00e9 form\u011b, je\u017e v\u0161ak nebyla ani zdaleka adekv\u00e1tn\u00ed v\u0161em nelidsk\u00fdm ukrutnostem n\u011bmeck\u00fdch fa\u0161ist\u016f, kter\u00e9 sp\u00e1chali b\u011bhem v\u00e1lky. P\u0159i nich zahubili miliony nevinn\u00fdch ob\u011bt\u00ed!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Proto dnes nemohou obst\u00e1t neomalen\u00e9 pokusy srovn\u00e1vat \u00fatrapy odsunut\u00fdch se stra\u0161liv\u00fdmi d\u016fsledky v\u00e1lky, kterou N\u011bmci sami op\u011bt vyvolali. Pro \u0159adov\u00e9 Pol\u00e1ky je zast\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed obdobn\u00fdch flagelantsk\u00fdch postoj\u016f zhola nemysliteln\u00e9 a pro politika potom zcela likvida\u010dn\u00ed! V Jugosl\u00e1vii po v\u00e1lce k odsunu N\u011bmc\u016f nedo\u0161lo, tam je za dokonan\u00e1 zv\u011brstva na m\u00edst\u011b post\u0159\u00edleli. Bohu\u017eel, my \u010ce\u0161i vzne\u0161en\u011b trp\u00edme sebemrska\u010dstv\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cms.parlamentnilisty.cz\/image.ashx?id=2931&amp;f=transport_odsun.jpg&amp;w=632&amp;h=307\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Osobn\u011b lituju ve\u0161ker\u00e9 ob\u011bti v\u0161ech v\u00e1lek. Je nutn\u00e9 p\u0159ed nimi v \u00fact\u011b pokleknout. Domn\u00edv\u00e1m se proto, \u017ee \u201ena\u0161i mil\u00ed krajan\u00e9\u201c by se nem\u011bli setk\u00e1vat v Brn\u011b, kde si za v\u00e1lky spo\u0159\u00e1dan\u011b kupovali vstupenky na \u00fa\u017easn\u00e1 p\u0159edstaven\u00ed v Kounicov\u00fdch kolej\u00edch, tedy na popravy \u010desk\u00fdch vlastenc\u016f, ale s nep\u0159edst\u00edranou pokorou by m\u011bli prosit za odpu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed v Lidic\u00edch nebo v Terez\u00edn\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Zdej\u0161\u00ed N\u011bmci ur\u010dit\u011b p\u0159isp\u011bli k historick\u00e9mu rozvoji \u010desk\u00fdch zem\u00ed. Sv\u00e9 poklidn\u00e9 sou\u017eit\u00ed v\u0161ak n\u00e1siln\u011b ukon\u010dili tragickou katastrofou druh\u00e9 sv\u011btov\u00e9 v\u00e1lky. Uva\u017ete, jak by se po roce 1989 v procesu sjednocov\u00e1n\u00ed N\u011bmecka, prob\u00edhaj\u00edc\u00edm za siln\u00e9 podpory obou supervelmoc\u00ed, p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b zachovaly \u010dty\u0159i miliony N\u011bmc\u016f, pokud by nedo\u0161lo k odsunu a oni by i nad\u00e1le \u017eili v \u010desk\u00e9m pohrani\u010d\u00ed? Co by potom asi zbylo z \u010ceska?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Je\u0161t\u011b bych se cht\u011bl vr\u00e1tit k oslav\u00e1m 17. listopadu. Projekt Blani\u010dt\u00ed ryt\u00ed\u0159i, kter\u00fd dokumentuje d\u011bn\u00ed na N\u00e1rodn\u00ed t\u0159\u00edd\u011b 17. listopadu 1989, podporuj\u00ed sam\u00e9 slovutn\u00e9 organizace jako t\u0159eba hejtmanka St\u0159edo\u010desk\u00e9ho kraje Petra Peckov\u00e1. P\u0159esto ho nikdo moc nezn\u00e1. V\u00e1s oslovili lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed za n\u00edm stoj\u00ed, abyste jim poskytl sv\u011bdectv\u00ed. Co se s n\u00edm d\u00e1l d\u011blo?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Projekt, za kter\u00fdm stoj\u00ed Neela Winkelmannov\u00e1, cht\u011bl shrom\u00e1\u017edit osobn\u00ed p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhy t\u011bch \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edk\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed z\u016fstali posledn\u00ed v kotli na N\u00e1rodn\u00ed t\u0159\u00edd\u011b. Poslal jsem jim sv\u00e9 z\u00e1\u017eitky, ale od t\u00e9 doby ticho po p\u011b\u0161in\u011b. Nejsp\u00ed\u0161 se jim moje post\u0159ehy moc nehodily do kr\u00e1mu. Nezapadaly do dodate\u010dn\u011b fabulovan\u00fdch bajek, je\u017e ji\u017e \u0161estat\u0159icet let pom\u00e1haj\u00ed udr\u017eovat fale\u0161n\u00e9 ofici\u00e1ln\u00ed m\u00fdty o sametov\u00e9 revoluci.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Vy si tak\u00e9 mysl\u00edte, \u017ee to zre\u017e\u00edrovala tehdej\u0161\u00ed St\u00e1tn\u00ed bezpe\u010dnost?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Je to na dlouh\u00e9 pov\u00edd\u00e1n\u00ed, kter\u00e9 na podklad\u011b dostupn\u00fdch dokument\u016f zcela vyvrac\u00ed usilovn\u011b tradovan\u00e9 pov\u011bsti ofici\u00e1ln\u011b \u0161\u00ed\u0159en\u00e9 m\u00e9dii, redaktory \u010cesk\u00e9 televize a st\u00e1tem placen\u00fdmi historiky. Oni se st\u00e1le boj\u00ed p\u0159istoupit k otev\u0159en\u00e9 konfrontaci s ov\u011b\u0159en\u00fdmi fakty, o\u010dit\u00fdmi sv\u011bdky a odhalit skute\u010dn\u00e9 d\u016fvody, pr\u016fb\u011bh a pozad\u00ed listopadov\u00e9ho p\u0159evratu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nejedn\u00e1 se p\u0159itom o \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 tajupln\u00e9 konspirace nebo praktiky svobodn\u00fdch zedn\u00e1\u0159\u016f, n\u00fdbr\u017e o logick\u00fd sled ud\u00e1lost\u00ed, ve kter\u00fdch hr\u00e1ly ur\u010ditou roli t\u00e9\u017e n\u011bkter\u00e9 slo\u017eky St\u00e1tn\u00ed bezpe\u010dnosti. Rozhoduj\u00edc\u00edm impulzem byl intenzivn\u00ed z\u00e1jem Sov\u011btsk\u00e9ho svazu, kter\u00fd pro uskute\u010dn\u011bn\u00ed podstatn\u00fdch zdej\u0161\u00edch zm\u011bn pou\u017eil nejen sv\u00e9 prost\u0159edky, ale vyu\u017eil t\u00e9\u017e dlouhodob\u00e9 latentn\u00ed nespokojenosti dom\u00e1c\u00edho obyvatelstva.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cms.parlamentnilisty.cz\/image.ashx?id=192770&amp;f=HNS_7379_638675354834789359.jpg&amp;w=632&amp;h=307\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>P\u0159i povrchn\u00edm pohledu by se ve stru\u010dnosti dalo ironicky \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee d\u016fvodem zm\u011bn byla pot\u0159eba Gorba\u010dova z\u00edskat vstupenku na parn\u00edk. Podm\u00ednkou jej\u00edho z\u00edsk\u00e1n\u00ed bylo uskute\u010dnit svobodn\u00e9 volby v\u0161ude ve v\u00fdchodn\u00ed Evrop\u011b, tedy i u n\u00e1s. Bez spln\u011bn\u00ed tohoto dodate\u010dn\u00e9ho americk\u00e9ho po\u017eadavku by se vrcholn\u00e9 setk\u00e1n\u00ed na Malt\u011b neuskute\u010dnilo. To sd\u011blil 4. prosince 1989 zkoprn\u011bl\u00fdm v\u00fdchodoevropsk\u00fdm gener\u00e1ln\u00edm tajemn\u00edk\u016fm Gorba\u010dov. Tato stroh\u00e1 informace p\u0159edstavovala pro p\u0159\u00edtomn\u00e9 vrcholn\u00e9 potent\u00e1ty definitivn\u00ed konec jejich politick\u00e9 kari\u00e9ry. T\u0159eba pro Ceauseska to bylo smrteln\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ji\u017e na Albertov\u011b ne\u0161lo p\u0159ehl\u00e9dnout podivn\u011b iniciativn\u00ed mlad\u00edky v ko\u017een\u00fdch bund\u00e1ch, kte\u0159\u00ed se sna\u017eili nasm\u011brovat pr\u016fvod na V\u00e1clavsk\u00e9 n\u00e1m\u011bst\u00ed. Nakonec se jim poda\u0159ilo demonstranty \u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u011b zav\u00e9st na N\u00e1rodn\u00ed t\u0159\u00eddu a\u017e do kotle stla\u010dovan\u00e9ho uniformovan\u00fdmi policisty a oni sami \u2013 po prok\u00e1z\u00e1n\u00ed se odznakem \u2013 rychle zmizeli ve dve\u0159\u00edch, kter\u00e9 byly n\u00e1hle otev\u0159eny pouze pro n\u011b v pr\u016fchodu pal\u00e1ce Metro. Nepochybn\u011b se jednalo o policisty v civilu. Po letech mi potvrdil jeden z nich, dosud slou\u017e\u00edc\u00ed plukovn\u00edk, \u017ee byl tehdy spolu s dal\u0161\u00edmi p\u0159\u00edslu\u0161n\u00edky navelen, aby zavedli pr\u016fvod na N\u00e1rodn\u00ed t\u0159\u00eddu, co\u017e se jim poda\u0159ilo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Pro\u010d posledn\u00ed dobou p\u0159i vzpom\u00ednkov\u00fdch akc\u00edch doch\u00e1z\u00ed na N\u00e1rodn\u00ed t\u0159\u00edd\u011b k napad\u00e1n\u00ed opozice, jako je t\u0159eba Andrej Babi\u0161, Filip Turek a dal\u0161\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ur\u010dit\u00e9 kav\u00e1rensk\u00e9 elity toti\u017e nelib\u011b vn\u00edmaj\u00ed sni\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed jejich domn\u011bl\u00fdch, av\u0161ak ve skute\u010dnosti smy\u0161len\u00fdch z\u00e1sluh o sametovou revoluci a nehodlaj\u00ed se s t\u00edm sm\u00ed\u0159it. T\u0159eba Michael Koc\u00e1b je dnes vn\u00edm\u00e1n jako hrdina, kter\u00fd state\u010dn\u011b vyhnal z \u010ceskoslovenska (a n\u011bkdy i z cel\u00e9 v\u00fdchodn\u00ed Evropy) sov\u011btskou arm\u00e1du. P\u0159itom nezn\u00e1 rozkaz sov\u011btsk\u00e9ho ministra obrany mar\u0161\u00e1la Dmitrije Jazova, na jeho\u017e z\u00e1klad\u011b za\u010dalo stahov\u00e1n\u00ed sov\u011btsk\u00fdch vojsk z v\u00fdchodn\u00ed Evropy ji\u017e 9. listopadu 1988! Pro po\u0159\u00e1d\u00e1n\u00ed ka\u017edoro\u010dn\u00ed pout\u011b \u010di ta\u0161ka\u0159ice 17. listopadu je tato skute\u010dnost ov\u0161em nep\u0159ijateln\u00e1. Proto se nejen pro \u0161koln\u00ed d\u011bti po\u0159\u00e1daj\u00ed na N\u00e1rodn\u00ed t\u0159\u00edd\u011b r\u016fzn\u00e9 hry a rozma\u0159il\u00e9 z\u00e1bavy, aby p\u0159ekryly slabost argument\u016f o hrdinech a revoluci, kter\u00e1 se nekonala.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cms.parlamentnilisty.cz\/image.ashx?id=198705&amp;f=def-10_638996564379598515.jpg&amp;w=632&amp;h=307\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>D\u016fle\u017eitou silou byl za minul\u00e9ho re\u017eimu disent. Nebylo to nikdy hnut\u00ed s jednotn\u00fdm n\u00e1zorem, nicm\u00e9n\u011b p\u0159evl\u00e1dala idea odboje proti komunismu. Dnes v\u0161ak b\u00fdval\u00ed disidenti p\u0159esn\u011b kop\u00edruj\u00ed chov\u00e1n\u00ed spole\u010dnosti. Tak\u00e9 se rozd\u011blili. Co to?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>N\u011bkdo byl uml\u010den funkc\u00ed a lukrativn\u00edm flekem, jin\u00fd se k t\u011bmto pout\u016fm se st\u00e1tn\u00ed byrokraci\u00ed oto\u010dil z\u00e1dy a z\u016fstal svobodn\u00fd. Ka\u017ed\u00fd to vid\u00ed podle sv\u00e9ho. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed lid\u00e9, t\u0159eba jako Lenka Proch\u00e1zkov\u00e1 \u010di Jan Schneider, se p\u0159ed moc\u00ed neohnou. Kdyby to ud\u011blali, \u017eili by sice spokojen\u011b v kulis\u00e1ch pln\u00fdch v\u00fdhod, ale nemohli by si sebe v\u00e1\u017eit. Rad\u011bji jsou pali\u010d\u00e1ci a nikomu se nepodb\u00edzej\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Spole\u010dnost byla rozd\u011blen\u00e1 v\u017edy. N\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed profituj\u00ed z v\u00fdvoje, zap\u0159ou se, ale jin\u00ed stoj\u00ed rovn\u011b a kritizuj\u00ed, jako t\u0159eba Stanislav Novotn\u00fd. No a tac\u00ed stoj\u00ed na okraji \u201espr\u00e1vn\u011b demokratick\u00e9\u201c spole\u010dnosti. Kdo nejde s v\u011bt\u0161inou vyfutrovanou pen\u011bzi a propagandou masov\u00fdch sd\u011blovac\u00edch prost\u0159edk\u016f, ten m\u00e1 sm\u016flu. Ale kdy\u017e se budete chovat t\u0159eba jako Alexandr Vondra nebo Marek Benda, tak budete po\u017e\u00edvat velk\u00fdch v\u00fdhod.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>11.12.2025 4:44 | Rozhovor \u201e\u010ce\u0161t\u00ed prezidenti sice v\u00fdhrady m\u011bli, zkou\u0161eli diskutovat, ale pak ustoupili. Av\u0161ak Pavel c\u00edtil obrovskou podporu z Bruselu a ustupovat se mu moc necht\u011blo,\u201c \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 v rozs\u00e1hl\u00e9m rozhovoru pro Parlamentn\u00edListy.cz n\u011bkdej\u0161\u00ed disident, ekonom a vysoko\u0161kolsk\u00fd pedagog Jan \u0160olta. Hovo\u0159ili jsme i o Nadaci \u017delezn\u00e1 opona, Milionu chvilek pro demokracii \u010di oslav\u00e1ch 17. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/?p=22294\" class=\"more-link\">Pokra\u010dov\u00e1n\u00ed textu <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Pam\u011btn\u00edk \u0160olta: \u201eSpr\u00e1vn\u011b demokrati\u010dt\u00ed\u201c disidenti maj\u00ed sv\u00e9 v\u00fdhody. Sude\u0165\u00e1ci do Terez\u00edna PS: toto stoj\u00ed za p\u0159e\u010dten\u00ed, jak to bylo 17.11.1989!<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-22294","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-pc"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22294","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=22294"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22294\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":22295,"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22294\/revisions\/22295"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=22294"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=22294"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.podivinsky.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=22294"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}